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Blacklisted: AskGamblers have been notified that Bovada casino is operating without a valid licence issued by a regulated authority. As a result we issued an official warning hoping that the operator will manage to solve the issue. I believe Bovada is rigged and the only only reason I still play there is to record it. Here are recordings of me going all-in every hand (faster results) Video 1 (1:11) Video 2 (1:09) Video 3 (13:18) Video 4 (2:51) Video 5 (10:24) Please keep close attention to the board run-outs. I will keep doing this and adding them to my channel. A member of the Bodog group family of online gambling operators, Bovada Casino has earned a generally stellar reputation among online gamblers. It also offers the rare exception of accepting players from the United States, where the federal government bans banks from processing transactions with offshore casinos. This Bovada Poker review is going to address a number of key areas of concern for poker players, with the main one of them being – is Bovada legal?The website treats customers with respect and operates as a legal entity, but Bovada does not hold a license from an official regulator, which puts it in a sort of a grey area.Meanwhile, there have been many reviews of online poker sites whose.
A detailed report has appeared online which alleges serious security breaches at Bovada Poker, and claims that millions may have been siphoned from the site by some form of ‘super-user’ accounts coupled with the use of bots. This raises the question: is Bovada poker rigged?
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The fantastical claims have been made by an anonymous team whose members “span industries including gaming, advertising, data mining, open source software development, security, and database solutions,” according to the report from dataminepoker.
They claim that:
“Based on all of the separate tests completed by our contracting team, it is evident that there are massive issues at Bovada Poker. There are issues with the number of multi large hands, collusion teams, and bots.”
Factors which they also allege they were able to exploit themselves on Bovada in trials afterwards, stating:
All of these situations were proven through data collection, analysis, and then using the techniques ourselves to increase our ability to win over average players.”
Online poker has always had more than its fair share of ‘paranoia’ among its players, usually based on the ‘luck’ factor which can see players run bad, suffer multiple bad beats, lose to ‘ridiculous’ plays by their opponents and then use the online community forums as a ‘sounding-off board’ for their tale of ‘rigged’ online poker-rooms.
Indeed, the DataMinePoker team describe such ‘paranoia’ as one of their starting points, saying:
As part of the initial research for this project, multiple online forums and gambling related social networks were combed for stories based on the potential unfairness of the Bovada Poker room. Based on the data collection of public posts within the past year, 1,461 separate stories of single or multi hand suspicious activity at Bovada Poker were found, collected, and verified.”
However, such ‘paranoia’ is not always mis-placed. The Ultimate Bet scandal of 2007 became the biggest in poker’s history when it was discovered that a ‘super-user’ account was being used, enabling the user to play in ‘God-mode’ with the ability to view other players hole cards, and winning millions of dollars from unsuspecting victims.
More recently, PokerStars investigated an alleged ‘bot ring’ emanating from Eastern Europe which was apparently exploiting their low-to-mid stakes PLO games, with many players being recompensed by the industry leader following their probe.
Whether or not these most recent allegations involving Bovada have any truth to them, the scale of the report – which DataMinePoker claim is only an initial public report, with secondary, more detailed, reports to come – is impressive.
After analyzing the Bovada Poker Mac and Windows applications, it was decided that these software applications were fairly secure and would require an advanced visual recognition system to collect the data required.'
Although extremely detailed, with mathematical models, hand-history reading scripts and coding (which are beyond this writer’s ken , but will doubtless be subject to intense scrutiny by many online aficionados of the game and its perceived unfairness) the core results of the report allege that:
- There is a massive problem where users are being edge-cased in big hands that they tend to lose a large pot over.
- Our team can easily confirm that Bovada Poker is a haven for collusion activity.
- It was determined that there are zero counter measures against bots and no front end way to try and detect bots/injectable systems.
Report states that:
These problems could be linked to a rogue employee(s) or hacker group that may have compromised the random number generator and shuffling algorithms used by the poker room software. It is also possible that this is a coincidental mistake made by the initial programmers of the random number generator/shuffling algorithms.'
A third possibility does not seem to have found any real substance during their ‘research’, the team stating:
Another, less likely possibility, is that Bovada is knowingly using their own software loophole to steal large amounts of user money,” as they later reveal that “From our base analysis…what occurred at Absolute/Ultimate Bet is not occurring on Bovada Poker in a noticeable way.”
The report also states that one of the difficulties they faced in compiling the report was the fact that Bovada is a private poker room, and they also point out:
Since Bovada Poker is not located within the United States, it is confirmed that the software has not readily been verified by the Nevada Gaming Commission or related American gaming control boards.”
That's something which they claim led them to initial suspicions that the poker room “may have potential security risks not checked by adequate control boards,” a belief which they allege their report confirms as having led to serious cheating issues and which – somewhat confusingly it may seem to many, “show that Bovada Poker is operating an unfair poker room (even while passing modern gambling software verification tests).”
They also claim their team is creating security on other online sites including alongside Bovada including:
- America’s Card Room
- BetOnline
- Sports Betting.ag
- Black Chip
- Carbon
Following these separate public reports, a large centralized report with access to all open source software tools, collection data, and image/video evidence will be released at once.
Whether this report turns out to contain any real issues of substance or not, the timing is not particularly good for the online gaming industry in general, coming in the wake of investigations into, and restrictions on, DFS and at a time when the big poker sites are doggedly clawing their way back into the US markets state-by-state.
It should be noted however that Bovada is, according to their own website, operated by Salmon River Technologies Ltd ('Salmon River Technologies Ltd', pursuant to a gaming license issued by the Kahnawake Gaming Commission, located in the Mohawk Territory of Kahnawake, Canada).
PokerTube will bring you responses from Bovada and any other interested parties as soon as they become available.
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US tax authorities will be chasing bitcoin transactions now. There's nowhere to hide anymore.
it is impossible to chase bitcoin transactions, unless you use one of the main exchanges and have an account that forces you to link personal information (like coinbase), if you have an anonymous wallet, there is no way to trace it....
Administrator
it is impossible to chase bitcoin transactions, unless you use one of the main exchanges and have an account that forces you to link personal information (like coinbase), if you have an anonymous wallet, there is no way to trace it....
Not quite: As a customer of XYZ casino, I set up an account: They request my name and address and various proofs of ID. When I withdraw my winnings by bitcoin I generate and tell them the address to send it to. They now have a bitcoin address associated with me. At any time, they, or 'the authorities' can examine that and any other bitcoin wallet addresses and see money coming and going. Every transaction is logged, forever. If the casino have told the authorities of the link between that bitcoin address and me as a person, then I'm open to forensic investigation of at least some of my transactions. The whole BITCOIN ledger is wide open to very deep analysis. ...Once some organisation provides the connection to a real person ID. This applies even if you buy and use a hardware wallet such as a Trezor.It's totally anonymous in it's own right until you say to the casino 'I'm Joe Bloggs, you can see from my account that I won $$$$. Please send my winnings to bitcoin address ...'
It's much less anonymous if you entrust an exchange like Coinbase with your bitcoins. They log everything anyway and have it all tied intractably to you as a person. It only takes for them to spill the beans to the tax authorities.
Not quite: As a customer of XYZ casino, I set up an account: They request my name and address and various proofs of ID. When I withdraw my winnings by bitcoin I generate and tell them the address to send it to. They now have a bitcoin address associated with me. At any time, they, or 'the authorities' can examine that and any other bitcoin wallet addresses and see money coming and going. Every transaction is logged, forever. If the casino have told the authorities of the link between that bitcoin address and me as a person, then I'm open to forensic investigation of at least some of my transactions. The whole BITCOIN ledger is wide open to very deep analysis. ...Once some organisation provides the connection to a real person ID. This applies even if you buy and use a hardware wallet such as a Trezor.
It's totally anonymous in it's own right until you say to the casino 'I'm Joe Bloggs, you can see from my account that I won $$$$. Please send my winnings to bitcoin address ...'
It's much less anonymous if you entrust an exchange like Coinbase with your bitcoins. They log everything anyway and have it all tied intractably to you as a person. It only takes for them to spill the beans to the tax authorities.
Your safest bet is declaring all wins and losses on your taxes.
If casinos don't allow ACH transfers it should be a red flag because that means they are not state sanctioned.
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It only takes for them to spill the beans to the tax authorities.
... and for the tax authorities to be interested.Your safest bet is declaring all wins and losses on your taxes.
If required to by your country's tax authorities.is, the live feed on bac hasn't worked
in weeks. I can see the live wheel on
roulette, but not on bac. At other
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casinos that use the same feed,it's not visible there either.
Ron44, here's my honest take of Bovada. They're not perfect, but there's no better casino serving most of the U.S.
'Outright cheating (rigged games) is pretty rare,'
A detailed report has appeared online which alleges serious security breaches at Bovada Poker, and claims that millions may have been siphoned from the site by some form of ‘super-user’ accounts coupled with the use of bots. This raises the question: is Bovada poker rigged?
Bovada Online Casino Rigged No Deposit
The fantastical claims have been made by an anonymous team whose members “span industries including gaming, advertising, data mining, open source software development, security, and database solutions,” according to the report from dataminepoker.
They claim that:
“Based on all of the separate tests completed by our contracting team, it is evident that there are massive issues at Bovada Poker. There are issues with the number of multi large hands, collusion teams, and bots.”
Factors which they also allege they were able to exploit themselves on Bovada in trials afterwards, stating:
All of these situations were proven through data collection, analysis, and then using the techniques ourselves to increase our ability to win over average players.”
Online poker has always had more than its fair share of ‘paranoia’ among its players, usually based on the ‘luck’ factor which can see players run bad, suffer multiple bad beats, lose to ‘ridiculous’ plays by their opponents and then use the online community forums as a ‘sounding-off board’ for their tale of ‘rigged’ online poker-rooms.
Indeed, the DataMinePoker team describe such ‘paranoia’ as one of their starting points, saying:
As part of the initial research for this project, multiple online forums and gambling related social networks were combed for stories based on the potential unfairness of the Bovada Poker room. Based on the data collection of public posts within the past year, 1,461 separate stories of single or multi hand suspicious activity at Bovada Poker were found, collected, and verified.”
However, such ‘paranoia’ is not always mis-placed. The Ultimate Bet scandal of 2007 became the biggest in poker’s history when it was discovered that a ‘super-user’ account was being used, enabling the user to play in ‘God-mode’ with the ability to view other players hole cards, and winning millions of dollars from unsuspecting victims.
More recently, PokerStars investigated an alleged ‘bot ring’ emanating from Eastern Europe which was apparently exploiting their low-to-mid stakes PLO games, with many players being recompensed by the industry leader following their probe.
Whether or not these most recent allegations involving Bovada have any truth to them, the scale of the report – which DataMinePoker claim is only an initial public report, with secondary, more detailed, reports to come – is impressive.
After analyzing the Bovada Poker Mac and Windows applications, it was decided that these software applications were fairly secure and would require an advanced visual recognition system to collect the data required.'
Although extremely detailed, with mathematical models, hand-history reading scripts and coding (which are beyond this writer’s ken , but will doubtless be subject to intense scrutiny by many online aficionados of the game and its perceived unfairness) the core results of the report allege that:
- There is a massive problem where users are being edge-cased in big hands that they tend to lose a large pot over.
- Our team can easily confirm that Bovada Poker is a haven for collusion activity.
- It was determined that there are zero counter measures against bots and no front end way to try and detect bots/injectable systems.
Report states that:
These problems could be linked to a rogue employee(s) or hacker group that may have compromised the random number generator and shuffling algorithms used by the poker room software. It is also possible that this is a coincidental mistake made by the initial programmers of the random number generator/shuffling algorithms.'
A third possibility does not seem to have found any real substance during their ‘research’, the team stating:
Another, less likely possibility, is that Bovada is knowingly using their own software loophole to steal large amounts of user money,” as they later reveal that “From our base analysis…what occurred at Absolute/Ultimate Bet is not occurring on Bovada Poker in a noticeable way.”
The report also states that one of the difficulties they faced in compiling the report was the fact that Bovada is a private poker room, and they also point out:
Since Bovada Poker is not located within the United States, it is confirmed that the software has not readily been verified by the Nevada Gaming Commission or related American gaming control boards.”
That's something which they claim led them to initial suspicions that the poker room “may have potential security risks not checked by adequate control boards,” a belief which they allege their report confirms as having led to serious cheating issues and which – somewhat confusingly it may seem to many, “show that Bovada Poker is operating an unfair poker room (even while passing modern gambling software verification tests).”
They also claim their team is creating security on other online sites including alongside Bovada including:
- America’s Card Room
- BetOnline
- Sports Betting.ag
- Black Chip
- Carbon
Following these separate public reports, a large centralized report with access to all open source software tools, collection data, and image/video evidence will be released at once.
Whether this report turns out to contain any real issues of substance or not, the timing is not particularly good for the online gaming industry in general, coming in the wake of investigations into, and restrictions on, DFS and at a time when the big poker sites are doggedly clawing their way back into the US markets state-by-state.
It should be noted however that Bovada is, according to their own website, operated by Salmon River Technologies Ltd ('Salmon River Technologies Ltd', pursuant to a gaming license issued by the Kahnawake Gaming Commission, located in the Mohawk Territory of Kahnawake, Canada).
PokerTube will bring you responses from Bovada and any other interested parties as soon as they become available.
Bovada Roulette
Bovada Review: Number One Online Casino In The US – 2019 UPDATE https://bitpokerstar.com/crypto-casinos/bovada-reviewUS tax authorities will be chasing bitcoin transactions now. There's nowhere to hide anymore.
Bovada Review: Number One Online Casino In The US – 2019 UPDATE link removed
US tax authorities will be chasing bitcoin transactions now. There's nowhere to hide anymore.
it is impossible to chase bitcoin transactions, unless you use one of the main exchanges and have an account that forces you to link personal information (like coinbase), if you have an anonymous wallet, there is no way to trace it....
Administrator
it is impossible to chase bitcoin transactions, unless you use one of the main exchanges and have an account that forces you to link personal information (like coinbase), if you have an anonymous wallet, there is no way to trace it....
Not quite: As a customer of XYZ casino, I set up an account: They request my name and address and various proofs of ID. When I withdraw my winnings by bitcoin I generate and tell them the address to send it to. They now have a bitcoin address associated with me. At any time, they, or 'the authorities' can examine that and any other bitcoin wallet addresses and see money coming and going. Every transaction is logged, forever. If the casino have told the authorities of the link between that bitcoin address and me as a person, then I'm open to forensic investigation of at least some of my transactions. The whole BITCOIN ledger is wide open to very deep analysis. ...Once some organisation provides the connection to a real person ID. This applies even if you buy and use a hardware wallet such as a Trezor.It's totally anonymous in it's own right until you say to the casino 'I'm Joe Bloggs, you can see from my account that I won $$$$. Please send my winnings to bitcoin address ...'
It's much less anonymous if you entrust an exchange like Coinbase with your bitcoins. They log everything anyway and have it all tied intractably to you as a person. It only takes for them to spill the beans to the tax authorities.
Not quite: As a customer of XYZ casino, I set up an account: They request my name and address and various proofs of ID. When I withdraw my winnings by bitcoin I generate and tell them the address to send it to. They now have a bitcoin address associated with me. At any time, they, or 'the authorities' can examine that and any other bitcoin wallet addresses and see money coming and going. Every transaction is logged, forever. If the casino have told the authorities of the link between that bitcoin address and me as a person, then I'm open to forensic investigation of at least some of my transactions. The whole BITCOIN ledger is wide open to very deep analysis. ...Once some organisation provides the connection to a real person ID. This applies even if you buy and use a hardware wallet such as a Trezor.
It's totally anonymous in it's own right until you say to the casino 'I'm Joe Bloggs, you can see from my account that I won $$$$. Please send my winnings to bitcoin address ...'
It's much less anonymous if you entrust an exchange like Coinbase with your bitcoins. They log everything anyway and have it all tied intractably to you as a person. It only takes for them to spill the beans to the tax authorities.
Your safest bet is declaring all wins and losses on your taxes.
If casinos don't allow ACH transfers it should be a red flag because that means they are not state sanctioned.
Administrator
It only takes for them to spill the beans to the tax authorities.
... and for the tax authorities to be interested.Your safest bet is declaring all wins and losses on your taxes.
If required to by your country's tax authorities.is, the live feed on bac hasn't worked
in weeks. I can see the live wheel on
roulette, but not on bac. At other
Bovada Online Casino Rigged Real Money
casinos that use the same feed,it's not visible there either.
Ron44, here's my honest take of Bovada. They're not perfect, but there's no better casino serving most of the U.S.
on your site you say the following:'Outright cheating (rigged games) is pretty rare,'
What evidence do you have to support that?
